JUN 09

1 - "Using 90% less power" = Only uses 10% power
2 - "Uses about 10% less energy" = Only uses 90% power

Take your pick, and it can't be both. TechRadar says it's Number 1.

Your title is incorrect

This is all baloney. RAM usage is negligible. Of course, the performance aspect is cool, but they are just taking advantage of the fact that being green is cool.

The true power suckers of PCs lie in the CPU, GPU, displays...

There is a lot more MRAM information in our site -

http://www.mram-info.com

Ron

oh sweet, 2015 we can look forward to m-ram.

If more ram takes up more power then using a less bloated operating system which uses less ram is also a good solution.

Hey, if it uses less power, I am all for it.

JT
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There's a study by a professor I know on this type of memory, if anyone is interested: http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/article.php?id=1236

RAM chips uses for what I know just 1W. Sure, it's a good thing when you consider the hundreds of millions of computers that will save a few megawatts. I'd be more interested if they produced less waste, as I doubt RAM chips are good for the environment.

It is fully explained why it is green. It is not the power consumption of the RAM that is being saved, but the power taking by the whole PC which doesn't need to be left on to make sure it is ready for action at a moments notice.

Does this kind of RAM mean faster sext messaging?

I'm doing research into MRAM right now at my university. It's for my masters thesis, and basically MRAM is faster, low-power, non-volatile, compact and more durable, than any other form of memory available right now

Well this RAM could be used for more then just your PC, which an above commenter claims would have negligible power savings. Even 10% less power usage would mean better battery life. Instant boot would also rock. Imagine your phone running longer since all functions but the radio shutting down and also 10% less power being used by the main storage while in use. These would certainly help your favorite electronics run longer.

John, by making the unpowered storage ram, it will entice users to power off their computer as the article said. THAT, if you ask me, is the big deal. I don't expect the performance boost to be too much. Also, 10% can make a big difference if you add up all the other computers in the world.

True, the GPU and CPU eat up alot more, but that is their nature. They do calculations, unlike RAM which requires WAY more power. Besides, engineers are already bringing down power consumption for both of these.

It saves energy? Well how much gas does it use? Cause thats all I care about...

Fix the title.

Article: "...MRAM will use about 10% less energy..."

instant on how ive waited for you

So, its made from an "antiferromagnet" that looks peanut can?

Although it's true that MRAM will use less power than conventional DRAM, it's not a major power savings itself, as many have already pointed out. It also won't have the side-effect of people powering down at night. Why? Because they already can. It's called Suspend, or more accurately, suspend-to-ram, and it's been supported by every computer for two decades now. It works by turning off the real power users -- CPU, GPU, hard drives, display -- and only powering the RAM. I use this myself at home and it results in nearly instant boot times.

There's an even more efficient version of this called Hibernate or suspend-to-disk. The contents of RAM is saved to the hard drive, which will be restored at boot time. For the extra cost of a few seconds shutting down and starting up, this allows the computer to turn off completely.

Incidentally, laptops have actually been making use of this ability all the way along. When you close the lid of your laptop, it automatically goes into suspend. That's why it takes a few seconds for the screen to come back on when you open it. Most will also switch to hibernate after some time of inactivity.

Though MRAM will be more energy efficient and will make suspend-to-ram a zero-power ability, it will not have a drastic effect on computer power consumption. The same power savings it provides can already be found today in suspend and hibernate modes. You just have to use them.

...most likely, I'll be dead.

Man, I was hoping to get my hands on this stuff before the end of the Mayan Calendar!

Hehe... ;-)

I wonder if this will speed up these RedTube videos...

They only thing they didn't talk about was cost... so I'm thinking it cost a lot.

40% of world computing power is used for porn.

cut the porn, and you'll be helping the environment.

1 - "Using 90% less power" = Only uses 10% power
2 - "Uses about 10% less energy" = Only uses 90% power

Next time you quote something why don't you try and quote the whole statement. It says 10% less energy PER MEGABYTE. Because most people have more than a megabyte of RAM, this tends to add up a bit now doesn't it? Let's try to pay attention shall we?

10% is still 10% no matter how many MEGABYTES you have dood.. its the magic of percentages...

In the post Depression era, when rampant predatory capitalism has been made impossible by incorporation law changes, this sort of advance will make solar powered computing an economical reality. We are going into a time of low energy systems everywhere, including computing.

Next time you quote something why don't you try and quote the whole statement. It says 10% less energy PER MEGABYTE. Because most people have more than a megabyte of RAM, this tends to add up a bit now doesn't it? Let's try to pay attention shall we?

So how much does it "add up to" when we have lets say 10 megabytes of RAM? 10 * 10% = 100%? ie no energy consumtion at all? And with more then 10 megabytes of RAM I guess you actually *gain* energy?

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Corban is stupid.
written by You , June 10, 2008
1 - "Using 90% less power" = Only uses 10% power
2 - "Uses about 10% less energy" = Only uses 90% power

Next time you quote something why don't you try and quote the whole statement. It says 10% less energy PER MEGABYTE. Because most people have more than a megabyte of RAM, this tends to add up a bit now doesn't it? Let's try to pay attention shall we?

Wow, what a great concept! This will be of great use to many system designers. Imagine the ramifications. Having problems with power consumption? Just add another GB of MRAM.

'tard! Get out of my gene pool.

the title should be:
Magnetic RAM is faster, uses 90%, less power

Will it still run doom?

FAIL. If it is unpowered, think of the security risk; encryption keys are stored on RAM.

using MRAM isnt exactly eco-friendly or "green" john (3rd comment from the top) a ferromagnet required ALOT of digging to produce an earth magnet.

I am looking forward to anything that is faster.

Curious though; since this RAM can hold its states longer without power, would that bring up any security issues such as those recently seen regarding decrypted passwords lingering in memory used for full disk encryption and other various forms of encryption? I hope that all encryption developers improve their key/container management before this memory is widely adopted.

This is the ghay and this article is older then the internets.

I'm sorry, but you are all idiots.
It says that it uses 10% less energy PER MEGABYTE. This does not mean that with 10 megabytes it uses 100% less energy.
Say, as a hypothetical example, that 1gb of RAM uses 1 kilowatt. That's (roughly) 1 watt per megabyte, right? So if they all use 10% less per megabyte, each megabyte will only use .9 watts. Therefore, you will be using about 900 watts, which is 90% of 1 kilowatt. Obviously, RAM uses much less power than this, but it's still valid.
So You is right, everyone else is wrong.

Cutting 90% of RAM power usage may not cut your power bills significantly, but it is the lead up onto BATTERY SUSTAINED ram.

Currently using a battery to maintain the ram in a PC is infeasible as it still uses a fair bit of power.

Their true aim is empowered ram, where they will essentially never heat up, which means they could possibly become much more powerful.

Instant boot becomes possible.

what they are saying is that the memory doesn't use power Constantly. regular memory always uses power.
example: if u are doing something on your computer and u have to get up and do something for lets say 3hrs. the memory will not use power while u are gone unless u are running torrents and u leave your monitor on.
at least thats how i look at it but i cud be wrong

Will memristors be used for cpu power reductionZ

hard drives can be eliminated by using this ram FOR a hard drive. ram disk.

already available for dell laptops with current technology ram. $800 for the option.

Apparently, many MRAM investors have backed out of this product because of its difficulty in programming and cost. Supposedly many engineers would rather not work with this type of RAM because other memory solutions are just more simple.

I am surprised no one has mentioned quantum dot based memory. It will use a fraction of the power, be much faster than this technology (or any memory tech out on the market now), and retains data for hundreds of years without degradation. In current flash ram, and its varrying itterations, the silicon breaks down each time you write the data. Quantum dot memory negates the entire problem while lowing power requirements and increasing data transmission speeds.

Time and money spent researching the kind of technology covered in this article should be put towards bringing the best tech to market, and that is quantum dot memory.

Ok well Matt. with the .... post. You are actually dumb. Because as stated before 10*10% does = 100%. But this is only 100% of the whole that you originally took the 10%. So in practice, if you had for some crazy reason, a 10MB RAM module you would only be using the power needed for 9MB to power the 10MB module you have. So in case you are cutting your power usage completely but, only from the original 1MB. So in theory yes you do gain power.....because you're not using it. lol omg. next time plz do thing before you post haha.

i think so