Comments for Solar Panels on Your House, Absolutely Free. at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 27 out of 20 comments http://www.ecogeek.org Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:36:22 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-39234 Beyond the sales pitch I’ve read all the sensible blogs on here.. I’ve been considering solar panels for my house and reading this has made me reconsider my approach.. By installing an off-the-grid system at my own expense and doing the necessary work to obtain the tax credit which is available until 2012. Nothing in America is ever free.. Who wants a 25-year contract tied into a mortgage of a house you may or may not be living in? 25 years is along time to be in one place esp. if you’re a young homeowner. Furthermore, what happens to this contract? And how can anyone ensure the next purchasers of the house will buy into the same idea? If they don’t the homeowner is then faced with trying to buy them out of the contract, which in turn can be expensive with lawyer cost and possible litigation. Thanks Common Sense / One800 for your insight, there is so much on the World Wide Web today that sucker people into ideas that really are to good to be true.. - Sensible.. Thu, 20 May 2010 13:00:42 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-35716 I lived in Colorado for four years and never heard of this! I wish I had, it seems like a great deal. I would really like to have the solar panels on my house but they are too expensive to buy on my own-- this is a great way for people to do it. -Sylvia - Digital Scales Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:05:52 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-31780 no one ever thought to ask one very important question.......is this company installing a grid tie-in system or a full system complete with batteries racks. if they are installing a regular system then the extra electricity generated would prolly be measured from the meter on the house, i don't see how they could take the money when it would have to be a check written to the owner of the house whose property is generating the electricity........ If it is just a simple grid tie in system for the solar then no one has yet pointed out that it would only be making electricity during the day.....so you get to buy it off the power company at night same as everyone else, so unless you spend your days at home and have nothing better to do you wouldn't even benefit from the solar panels generating unless you count the electricity you are getting paid for from the power company - jimmy pop Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:33:44 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-30882 Jeff Wolfe Said,February 25th, 2007 @1:35 pm CitizenRe currently has no systems installed. They publicly state that they will not install any until September 2007 (date may have changed in the last few days). However, they also do not have a manufacturing plant (no date for ground breaking either), they have actually not raised the $650 million of capital they refer to, and their projected numbers of systems to be installed versus projected manufacturing capacity do not add up. In short, there are a lot of promises, some conflicting, and no proof. CitizenRe has publicly been asked a series of not-too-difficult questions about their business. The replies to-date do not confirm a valid business. As the old saying goes, if it looks to good to be true, it probably isn’t true. CitizenRe does an enormous disservice to the solar industry by promising what they apparently cannot deliver. The solar industry, just growing in many other states, needs customers. By diverting these potential customers to a product that probably cannot be delivered, CitizenRe is setting the entire industry back, as well as our goals for a clean and sustainable future. More detailed information is available on http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/reinsider/story?id=47419 and http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/podcast?id=47452 - mike Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:06:12 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-22788 If i had a dalmation on my roof named pokey could she attract solar winds? - mike zani Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:37:16 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-21132 The high initial cost of Installing solar panels (~$40K) opens the door for these guys to put their power plant on your roof. Do you lease your car, or rent your home? It definitely works for some people. As for me, I would want to avoid these "free" panels. I would pay the (high) initial cost, to be independent. I would prefer to put my own power plant on my own roof. It is interesting that the problems faced by alternative energy seem to be more about business models than engineering. - james Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:23:04 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-20623 Has anyone thought of the Transmission losses that will be saved. This company is like a power company. It's a power plant right at your house. Less cost for transmitting power over long distances. And the extra power goes to the grid. Making for a reliabe power infastructure. - jonnyUtaw Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:59:15 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-18671 Why would I give some company the right to install equipment on and practically own my rooftop. And still have to pay a "rental" fee that "might" be the same or equal to what I'm already paying the electric company? GTFOH!!! What you're doing here is changing the name and local-law regulated status of your electric company. CitizenRe will be able to charge you whatever they wish and you better believe that they'll put as many panels on that roof as they can get away with. (They're selling off credits rights? So the logic is to produce as much power as possible, which in effect increases credits.) A = Your usage B = Power Generated C = Credits B - A = C So if you believe that you're protected from rate and fee increases for the next 25 years, then go dunk your head in the toilette; because obviously you like the taste of BS. I'll take the hit up front - pay for my own panels, have them installed, and realize my own ROI - and retain all rights of ownership. Another thing... this sounds like another way for somebody to be able to put a lien on your house. And who needs/wants that? Lastly, how many of these "run-out-and-get-it" comments were written by salesman? - one800 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:21:31 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-15820 So in other words, since you are "RENTING" the system then it isn't FREE!!!......DUH - anonymous Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:15:58 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-14937 fuk u u bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 yous can eat [s]grass[/s] [u]arse!!![/u] - anonymous Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:32:00 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-13447 I am looking at a house that has solar power,it has about 5 panels on the roof and from the looks of the utilities (all electric, except gas to light the fireplace) with heat pump, appear to be a little more than half of the normal monthly bill. I know very little about it please help. - Steve Collins Fri, 23 May 2008 10:19:04 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-12428 I live in the northeast and am looking to build a new home using as much Earth friendly materials as possible. Looking for more info on solar panels and where to go in my area. Any ideas? - Diane Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:35:31 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-9859 everything is over priced in canada.You have to spend $50,000.00 just to save $5,000.00 after all is said & done you must pay $6,000.00 in taxes. better off paying the bigboys as per norm - merl Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:05:19 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-9032 im intertesed in solar panels for homes,can you tell me where i can find them and the cost. thank you - roy jenkins Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:17:53 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-7333 Most of the comments missed a few important parts of this. If you buy a solar system, you have tens of thousands in up front costs, and you have to deal with getting all the rebates yourself. Now, federal rebates limit residential solar to a maximum of $2000 or $2500, but businesses get 30% of whatever amount of solar is installed. But the 30% is most likely the wholesale cost, not retail. I assume that the money they save from this is where they make the profit. I think this would be a great idea for people who cannot come up with the cash to install a system, but would like the chance to save money on their bill, or would like to do something green. Either way, they can now. - Ed Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:21:45 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-3333 The violation of the Citizenre advertising policy is true. But let's clarify a few facts. The Citizenre solution is available throughout the continental U.S., not just Colorado. I don't know if Citizenre plans to sell excess electricity to utilities since the legal framework to do so is shaky at best right now. Also, systems are sized to work with the average annual electrical consumption of the customer which doesn't leave any excess for sale to the utility. Some Citizenre Ecopreneurs have chosen to blatantly promote their sales channel - not cool. If you want to know the price, it's simple. Whatever you pay on average per month to your utility is what you will pay Citizenre - for 25 years if you chose to sign the 25 year contract. While everyone else is experiencing annual electric rate increases, (I can guarantee this with a certain degree of certainty), yours will be held to your contracted rate. The interest bearing refundable deposit will be between $500-$1500. For any more details, contact your local area Ecopreneur. HTH, Truepoint - Truepoint Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:26:13 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-2976 This Web Site is in Violation of Citizere advertising rules. 1. Citizenre name is NOT to be advertised. 2. The solar system is NOT free. 3. There IS a cost to customer. 4.There IS a deposit ($500-$1000). There are so many mis-leading statements I will have to report to Citizenre. 5.The system will work in ANY net metering State. 6.The house (image) violates copyright law. - Michael Thomas Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:29:36 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-2060 give prices of Solar panel, soon as possible. > Looking forward to hearing from you, at the very > earlioest. > Thanks and regards > Bob Mike Kityo - bob Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:54:39 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-2025 Dear Sir/Madam, give me prices of deal in the electronics, as follows. marine engine Solar panel, and generators both diesel and petro soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you, at the very earlioest. Thanks and regards Bob Mike Kityo - bob Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:09:51 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/353#comment-1805 Regarding Mnhaase's comments; CitizenRe is not a utility provider. Net metering allows them to supply a portion of you electricity. If your system overproduces the customer loses. Your utility provider will only pay wholesale for electricity that you add to the network, while you pay CitizenRe retail for the same electricity. Systems will be designed to produce less than your overall need to protect the customer. If you can afford your own equipment and deal with the maintenence of such system, go ahead. If you would like to be protected from the maintenance of a system, the overall cost, or changes in the market place (i.e. fusion) than CitizenRe provides a great way to make a difference. This is not the same thing as paying your local utility provider for Wind Power - the utility controls the cost (you have no way to lock it down). Lastly, these systems are available throughout most of the U.S. as long as net-metering laws are in place - so Colorado is not the only place you can sign up. This is a revolutionary approach - one that is long overdue. Visit [url]www.jointhesolution.com/solarforlife[/url] and start to make a difference. Just think if we as a country were able to achieve energy independence! - Jeff Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:06:18 +0100