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		<title>&quot;Fluorescent-Killing&quot; Bikei LED Tube Lamp</title>
		<description>Comments for &quot;Fluorescent-Killing&quot; Bikei LED Tube Lamp at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 24 out of 20 comments</description>
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			<title>T8 LED Fluorescent</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-32349</link>
			<description>We supply T5/T8 LED Tube, T8 LED Fluorescent - LED Light</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:25:28 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>T5/T8 LED tube</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-32278</link>
			<description>:)We are a professional manufacturer of LED lIGHT and LED STRIP. We have advanced equipment and professional R$D team. welcome to visit our company!
contact me: 
MSN:sherry_yee@hotmail.com

 - sherry</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:24:30 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>LED Lighting</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-31998</link>
			<description>Hello, 
We are the manufaturer of LED Lighting in China, and we can supply high quality LED Lighting products, including LED T8,T5 Tube &amp; bulbs, LED grille light, LED spotlight, LED downlight, LED grow light and so on...
welcome to our website: www.cinaledlighting.com 
If you have any quetions about LED Lighting, please contact me : limieer@hotmail.com
  - limieer</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:39:00 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>interesting article</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-29928</link>
			<description>nice info...let me share another good resource regarding beautiful lamp designs http://dzinelog.com/creativity/387-creative-and-unusual-lamp-designs.html

they are sharing very good lamp designs. - jack</description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:02:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>led tube</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-29598</link>
			<description>We are led tube manufacuturer located in China. we know that the led tube is evergy saving and environmental . IF you are interested in our products , pls feel free to contact with me .
MSN :irenemei2009@hotmail.com
Email : ledtube2009@yahoo.cn[u][/u]:'( - Irene mei</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:43:56 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Truth</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-29466</link>
			<description>I am a chinese.As a manufacturer of various LED products such as LED tube&amp;LED bulb.I know these fluorescent tubes are not cheap ,but maybe not so expensive!If someone is interested in these products,please feel free to have a talk with me.
My MSN:oasis19870509@live. - Hugh</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:43:39 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>ROI</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-29074</link>
			<description>Sounds great until the LED burns out in the first 12 months, then you can throw away all your calculations and hunt for the old fluor tubes, which hopefully you have saved! - jim</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:38:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>LED 60 cm tube at 11$</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-27128</link>
			<description>I have a great tubes with 5050 smd at 11$ and if w go above 5000 we can get at 10.25$ and 10000 at less than 10$.
It is matter of time before they will come to 5$. I cannot see how flourescent can compete with this

 - Peter Calka</description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:42:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-25339</link>
			<description>sorry, 1200mm-20W :2000lumen - Rocky</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:18:48 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-25338</link>
			<description>www.worldportables.com  provide new technology SMD 5050 LED fluorescent tubes .. surprising price :$37   MSN: huangyan32@hotmail.com  skype: huangyan32   Length 1200mm-50W   2000lumen  - Rocky</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:37:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Would you like to write an article about</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24850</link>
			<description>I am neoseikan, the producer of Neofab Legion II, the brightest single LED flashlight. It has 742~748 real torch lumens.
Would you like to write an article about these kind of strong light LED flashlights?
If you are interested, here is the link: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=191371
Thank you!

 - neoseikan</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:47:52 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24702</link>
			<description>There has always been some smoke and mirrors to LED marketing. In terms of the smoke in the Bikei copy, Bieki has claimed that a conventional fluorescent lamp has a 5,000 hour life. Bikei is comparing apples and oranges here. Small, old fluorescent tubes used on magnetic ballasts such as an F4T5, have a 5,000 hour life. IMO, Bikei needs to benchmark its product against a modern T8 or T5 fluorescent lamp used with a high frequency electronic ballast. Current T8 systems reliably deliver 36,000+ hours @ ~2700 mean lumens and thus would force Bikei to restate it's ROI. If you look at induction sources (RF excitation of mercury and phosphors), the life pushes to 100,000 hours. - Jeffrey Augustine</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:31:47 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>I can only second that</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24431</link>
			<description>My company develops LED street lights, which save up to 40% energy compared to gas discharge lamps and also live three to four times longer. LEDs hold an enourmous potential in reducing energy costs for all kinds of lighting purposes. I my best estimate, LED technology is currently at a breakthrough point: In four to five years, we'll see much more LEDs being used for interior as well as exterior lighting purposes. - Chris</description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:54:20 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Not just &quot;less&quot; light-- way less, &gt;8X di</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24423</link>
			<description>It's not an equivalent &quot;drop-in&quot; replacement-- you have to consider the light output. This LED light gets 370 lumens, but the normal T-12 bulb is &gt;2800. So as Chris writes, this LED light is &gt;4X less efficient than a normal bulb. If you simply take out one of a pair of bulbs, you get the same savings in energy, but 4X more light.

This LED light is so dim that you can get almost the same effect as just turning off the light. - Carl</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:18:03 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Cannot be swapped</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24407</link>
			<description>Ok, why are they trying to make it look like a fluorescent tube? The whole benifit of the fluorescent tube is that you get a full 360 degree output and can therefore design the accompaning reflector system to suit. This LED cuts out some of that spectrum. Am I missing something? 

Also, superior colour quality to fluorescent? C'mon, you can get high CRI fluorescent lamps in a variety of Tk color temperature ranges. The colour argument over fluorescent has been dead for years. 

 - ugottawonder</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:13:07 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>For commercial applications need to cons</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24401</link>
			<description>Labor costs for install need to also be included in the cost/benefit analysis. These reduced labor costs may affect the timing? How many MTA employees does it take to change a lightbulb? How much does that cost? :) - Shawn Lancaster</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:44:55 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Better Fluorescent Tube Replacement Comp</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24397</link>
			<description>
Better price, $149, from Company in VT [url]http://www.leddynamics.com/[/url].  [url]http://www.everled.com/everled-tr/[/url] was the first commercially available fluorescent tube replacement utilizing clean, safe, and long lasting LED technology back in 2007. They won Popular Science's Best of What's New and EC&amp;M's Product of the Year 2008. Their company rocks.  - Heather</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:11:26 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Is it worth it?</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24391</link>
			<description>I'm assuming that someone checked to see if there is a long term savings to having these drop in lights which are still connected to a ballast.  Would it be better/more efficient/save money to simply make fixtures that could easily be swapped out for flourescent fixtures (so that they fill the same typical area in a ceiling tile grid). - shek</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:26:45 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24390</link>
			<description>bioleds have the future... - jvr</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:11:28 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Ludicrously inefficient</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2576#comment-24388</link>
			<description>Something has got to be wrong, because that's only 18 lumens/watt. My electronically ballasted T-8 bulbs get 92 lumens/watt. (That is, at 32W they produce 2950 lumens.) And these are sunshine bulbs, i.e. they have a balance of phosphors which give variety in the output spectrum. - Chris</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:32:38 +0100</pubDate>
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