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		<title>$1B Per Year Wasted by PS3s and XBoxes</title>
		<description>Comments for $1B Per Year Wasted by PS3s and XBoxes at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments</description>
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			<title>Real power wasters</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22766</link>
			<description>I wonder how much energy mister &quot;I am an adult&quot; wastes watching sports every week. I bet he does watch sports, which means that he supports the wasteful lifestyle lead by most players. - methos65021</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:28:00 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Who are these people?</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22543</link>
			<description>I'm curious as to who these people are that are leaving their XBox 360 and PS3 on all the time. I think they're just retarded. If its because they are downloading something I believe the 360 has a &quot;Power Off When Download Completes&quot; option or something, not sure about PS3. - Brandon</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:23:03 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Watts Up shows they use more power than</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22534</link>
			<description>in this article.  XBox 360 is more like 180 watts in active mode, 157 watts at idle, PS3 190 wattts   in play, 177 watts at idle, Wii is about right. Standby loss is about Wii 1.3 Watts, XBox 360 3 Watts and PS3 2 watts.  A Smart Strip is handy for turning things off that are left on, if you haven't bothered to set them up in power down mode. - alfa katzz</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:04:50 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Tantalums etc...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22518</link>
			<description>Even if they did use it, should we stop the technological progress because some people in the producing country abuse their fellow citizens? (which they would do anyway). We should be helping these counties effectively not stop buying PS3's !!!!

Another thing: I have a PS3. It is easy to turn on just by pressing a button on the remote control. Boot time is around 15 seconds. On standby (no game is playing, just watching the XMB menu bar) it requires around 140W (!!!!). This is absurd!!!  They released a &quot;power savings&quot; feature. Here comes the fun part: The minimum amount of inactivity for the power save to be triggered is ...1 hour!! That means if i forget the damn thing on it will be A FULL HOUR draining power before it automatically turns off!!! Great !! Of course there are options like 5 hours!! What are these guys thinking ?
 - hyperspaced</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:04:40 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Jrich,

Most gaming consoles use conductive polymer caps...not tantulums. - Vinylstar</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:49:32 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22501</link>
			<description>YOU MADAM ARE WRONG. I DO NOT HAVE A VIDEO GAME IN MY HOUSE. I AM AN ADULT. 

So does this mean you don't have a gaming system because of your age, or because you are to mature? You seem to feel VERY strongly about video games and their connection to age and or maturity. I would have you know not only am I an adult and father to 3 great children, but my father at the age of 59 plays games, TO AID IN KEEPING HIS MIND SHARP! Not to mention video games in recent years have been found to assist in helping patients in forms of recovery and eye/hand coordination. In addition the videogame industry grossed more than Hollywood for several years now. If you choose not to spend your free time in this fashion good for you but don't equate someones choice for leisure time pleasure to being immature. - M. Dunn JR</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:04:26 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Need Labelling</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22491</link>
			<description>If all electronics were required to have EnergyGuide labels, then people would realize these video games were really expensive and wasteful, so manufacturers would quickly fix it. There is no technical reason why a video game needs to burn 150W doing nothing. TVs also need a standby like monitors to turn off the backlight. It would cost almost nothing and save as much as installing an expensive solar panel. - Carl</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:18:31 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>all powered by clean coal</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22488</link>
			<description>All powered by clean coal:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/29/tennessee.sludge/ - jack</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:05:53 +0100</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22487</link>
			<description>[quote]Obviously, if you have a Wii and an XBox, you should get Lego Indiana Jones for the Wii, the gameplay will be identical.[/quote]

The graphics, however, will not.  Especially if you have an HD TV, which the Wii won't take advantage of. - sidereal</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:56:12 +0100</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22485</link>
			<description>YOU MADAM ARE WRONG.  I DO NOT HAVE A VIDEO GAME IN MY HOUSE.  I AM AN ADULT. - John Bancroft</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:28:43 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>They Consume Energy AND Kill People</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22480</link>
			<description>Since we are on the subject, it's worth tossing in my two cents about another looming problem with Xboxes and PS3s. Both pieces of equipment, along with iPhones, other cell phones and myriad other electronic devices contain capacitors made with Tantalum.

So what, you say?

Well, Tantalum is a metal that is largely exported from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). The source material is called Coltan and it is easily minable. The DRC has 80% of the world's Coltan reserves. 

If you haven't paid attention to the situation in the DRC, 4 million people have died in the region since 1998 due to conflicts largely funded by diamonds and, more importantly, Coltan. If you've ever watched Hotel Rwanda or Blood Diamond, you get the picture.

So what do you do?

Make noise. Specifically, talk about this problem. Companies like Nintendo and Sony only respond to consumer pressure. Capacitors are a small part of every unit but when combined, add up quickly. The largest operating mine is located in western Australia but it has shut down because suppliers are buying from the DRC. 

See:Global Investment Watch for more details. http://globalinvestmentwatch.com/2008/12/15/the-coltan-wars-pt-2-the-business-of-war/
http://globalinvestmentwatch.com/2008/12/08/the-coltan-wars-pt-1/
 - J. Richardson</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:11:54 +0100</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22478</link>
			<description>Just having a guide of how to switch to power-saving mode isn't going to help at all. 
If people are energy conscious, they will have already switched to energy saving mode, or turn off the plug when they've finished, if they don't care about energy, then will just continue to do what they are already doing.
The only things that will work, are either having energy-saving mode on by default (or via a patch), or having an incentive to be green (e.g. on the X360, get an achievement from switching to power-saving mode) - Clinch</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:20:15 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>What if that power comes from solar</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22477</link>
			<description>I have neither an Xbox, Wii or PS3, but it seems strange to not have the power saving mode the factory installed default.  I have a laptop and that sucker has a power-management icon for me to change quickly and easily.

If the power is all renewable then who gives a crap?  If I'm in the PacNW and most of my power comes from hydro its not a terrible harm to the environment to leave my xbox running.  Also if I make the power I can do what I wish with it.   - bobbobberson</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:13:12 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>slaves to your own created god</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2406#comment-22476</link>
			<description>Your God's demands are pretty harsh.Penance costs,do you really want to bear a penalty for a make believe sin.Why do you beg for your own slavery??? - wiiiiiiiiiiii</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:55:14 +0100</pubDate>
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