Comments for VW Will Sell a 200 MPG Car in 2010 at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 58 out of 20 comments http://www.ecogeek.org Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:54:55 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-31212 it would run twice that amount. Still, that would be an affordable vehicle for a lot of folks that would never be able to afford a new car and constantly be stuck with money pit, - wholesale from china Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:09:19 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-30979 Most of the facts on this L1 are out now; the price is high due to exotic materials like a race car or airplane. Mass production and a shift in industrial priorities (less focus on sheet steel) will bring prices down eventually. Safety does matter but currently 100mpg is obtained through driving a 50cc scooter; how safe is that? Three wheel and hybrid wheel-motor electrics should be added to L1 variant list even if created aftermarket in a barn. Marketing here is always the question, until other carmakers steal more headlines and market share. At least the current TDIs are popular. Ron - Ronald Rash Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:11:48 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-30411 Change it to 3 wheels and sell it as a motorcycle here in the USA. This is exactly what I want and IF you have access to Aptera Files you will see that I asked exactly for a 1+1 like this without all the space for junk in the trunk. I'm usually by myself but on occasion I do take my wife or friends for a cruise. IF it was a VW I would take it around the USA, the entire CONUS starting in Kansas City going south to Texas and then west to CA, North to WA, East to ME, south to FL then back west to TX, before returning to Kansas City. Should the cruise work out as great as I expect then I'd put all 48 states on it and make the cruise through all of them and then through Canada as well. I'm retired and I'd gladly sell my Lincoln and my two trucks to have an awesome machine like this to drive and cruise with!!! - Lindsey Angell Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:22:24 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-30339 There are other's comming. Look for the german build Loremo AG 1 liter/100 km will come in production in 2011 and will be sold for about 15000 euro. 2+2 seater. EV version is comming as well. These are the future cars. - schrijvers Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:55:32 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-29686 When I made my original post, that was the price that was floating around the internet. Now I've seen comments about it running in the $25K area. Anyway you cut it, it won't be available here anytime soon. (see reply I got back from VW) - Swiggy Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:42:54 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-29410 Swiggy wrote: They'd love this car because of the price. I've heard it quoted as being $600. Figure in All the additional baggage, it would run twice that amount. Still, that would be an affordable vehicle for a lot of folks that would never be able to afford a new car and constantly be stuck with money pit, gas guzzling used cars. This is what Obama wants, but VW ain't giving it. Swiggy: this wouldn't be a $600 car. Cars like this one that are packed with carbon fiber, magnesium and aluminum run more like $60,000+. This is a rich man's toy. From VW's description: The frame is actually made of magnesium, an extremely light metal, and the outer skin is reinforced with carbon fiber. The one cylinder engine is made of aluminum and sits on top of the rear axle. - Ed Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:04:44 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-29307 This car has an Electric motor and a battery that must be recharged after 40 miles. If you will be the lucky one to kip this battery for 300 charge/discharge cycles you need a new battery set after driving 12000 miles (40miles x 300 recharge cycles). If the cost of the battery is $5000 , then you spend $0.4 per mile only in battery cost. Kilowatts, recharging the battery are extra. Oh, by the way, this car has a gasoline engine 40MPG. I bought a used Toyota Corolla, manual, on 2002 with 35000 miles. Now the car has 120000 miles and still makes 34MPG (Summer). - bluemonkey Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:41:12 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-29288 230 MPG gasoline, and how much more KILOWATS + NEW BATTERY SET EVERY 3 YEARS???!!! + THE WEGHT OF THE CAR + THE PRICE OF THE CAR… - bluemonkey Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:01:38 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-29137 EVERYONE seems totally confused by this - googling produces no useful results, nothing. But 230 MPG seems to tie in nicely. Thoughts? - Josh Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:38:59 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-28952 Just got this letter back from VW Americas: Dear JN Swegan, Thank you for visiting the Volkswagen website. We truly appreciate your interest in the L1 Concept! At this time, the L1 does not meet our marketing objectives for North America; therefore, we have no plans to offer this model in the United States or Canada. We encourage you to keep in touch with our website or your local VW dealer regarding future model possibilities. Thanks again for visiting. Have a great day! Ieshia Volktalk ------------------------------------------------------ Kinda tells me that they believe that the US still has big bucks to buy high priced cars. I know a lot of people, that if this car were introduced, would buy it because they could afford it. A lot of folks that can't afford a decent used car use scooters to get around on, but they are as cheap as they used to be. They'd love this car because of the price. I've heard it quoted as being $600. Figure in All the additional baggage, it would run twice that amount. Still, that would be an affordable vehicle for a lot of folks that would never be able to afford a new car and constantly be stuck with money pit, gas guzzling used cars. This is what Obama wants, but VW ain't giving it. - Swiggy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:36:40 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-28858 I have read about VW plans to build a factory to build a 2 seat 4 wheel in-line vehicle that would pass crash tests. But the article talked about the VW vehicle getting 125 mpg. Since I have bought 2 Toyota Yaris, I figure I may not live long enough to wear out both Yarises. I will just have to accept 38.8 mpg that I get driving my Toyota Yarises by using legal forms of hypermiling. If this new VW ever gets mass produced. If this new VW ever gets to the US. If this new VW ever gets a good quality rating by Consumer's Reports. I may consider buying this new VW as a future second or third car. - ellenbetty Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:16:43 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-27742 I like the way the wob l1 looks. I will definitely like to get one. Hope they are able to get it into the United States. - Louis Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:07:04 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-27738 This is total bs.... buy a moped with a 30cc motor and get 100 mpg. Add all the extra weight and options with 4 wheels and it will never get that kind of mpg with a 333cc motor. It will never happen people so get your heads back to reality and stop wasting your intellect and energy on bs VW vapor DREAMS! - E C Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:05:39 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-27208 There are some basic laws of physics that will always make these smaller cars less safe in a colision. A large mass car will protect better than a small mass one. Thus was the basic sin in Ralph Nader's undafe at any speed book. He effectively halted the only American car that was attempting to be fuel efficient in the mid 1960s. The message to our car makers was that small will not sell. Foreign makers were able to develop more efficient small cars because their domestic markets supported them. Now we are paying the price for Nadar's self promoting lies. - T.E. Darby Wed, 27 May 2009 07:27:56 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-26957 This is what I've been looking for for at least two decades. It's ideal for me. I wouldn't have to lug a ton of steel around with me to the places i travel and the things I need transportation for. - david Mon, 18 May 2009 17:15:56 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-26886 Sorry to all you 'it's impractical' types, but this is exactly the type of vehicle I'm looking for. No, it won't do much for groceries or kid hauling. But it would get me back and forth to work and since there is no one to carpool with, the second seat is all i need to carry my daily stuff. It's purpose built and limited-just like a lot of other tools-but would be perfect for what I and quite a number of others could use. The question is, will they actually market the dang thing. - LarryD Fri, 15 May 2009 07:18:13 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-26481 L1 will be released next year in 2010. - Stippidy Sat, 02 May 2009 00:41:26 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-26480 I just got back from the dealer. The cat WILL be released in the us and for only... Hold your breath... $600 (six-hundred) dollars!!! Hell yes I'll buy one! - Stippidy Sat, 02 May 2009 00:38:40 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-16119 please read the email i got regarding the release of this vehicle...... Dear Matthew, The vehicle you have described is the L1 concept, and is designed with a 1 liter engine. As the L1 is a concept only, no information is available regarding possible production for any markets. Your feedback regarding the desirability of the L1 has been noted, and we appreciate your time in reflecting it. Thank you again for visiting vw.com. BobVolktalk - Matthew Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:21:19 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/1617#comment-15645 As has been mentioned, automobile companies have experimented with high mpg cars for decades, so when will the U.S. ever get them on a consistent basis? Or will we just have several incarnations of the Prius (which I don't at all consider impressive with a mere 40ish mpg) and many dozens of concept cars that never even get [i]close[/i] to market? I think it's ridiculous that after all these decades we're still using fossil fuels to run our engines and that we're still allowing passenger vehicles that are so wasteful. Enough is enough. - Melissa Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:54:09 +0100