Well here it is, and it’s beautiful.
The Chevrolet Volt is a hybrid hatchback that can get anywhere from a sixty to a million miles per gallon.
OK, so you all trusted me until I said that, and now you’re checking to see if it’s April already. But I’m for real.
The Volt contains two engines, like any hybrid car, a gasoline engine and an electric engine. However, the gasoline engine never actually propels the car.
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All propulsion is accomplished by the electric engine which, in turn, is powered by the lithium ion batteries. The batteries are charged by plugging them into the wall. For the first forty or so miles of driving, the batteries have enough power to move the car from zero to sixty in 8 seconds and hit a top speed of 120 mph.
Then, after all that aerodynamic, electric, regenerative-brake-using driving, an ultra-efficient, small, inexpensive gasoline engine kicks on and recharges the battery. Using only power generated by the gas generator, the car gets about 60 mpg.
But if trips are less than 40 miles (which most daily commutes are) the car doesn’t use a drop of gasoline. So the majority of trips will use absolutely no gasoline at all. Technically, if you drive 40 miles a day, for 68 years, and then drove a bit more than 40 miles one day…you would get One Million Miles Per Gallon. Of course, the batteries would die long before that, and the gasoline in your tank would likely have evaporated away or, more likely, have been siphoned off by Mad Max and his post apocalyptic marauders.
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Theoretically, the 40 miles number will grow along with battery technology. GM’s engineers have also made the innovative power train (which they’re calling the E-Flex System) modular. So, instead of a gas generator, a diesel, ethanol, hydrogen, or hydrogen fuel cell generator could be used.
All-in-all, this is a fikkin fabulous idea that will likely be showing up in consumer vehicles of all shapes and sizes in the next five years. This will almost certainly be the first new car I will ever buy, and I will be proud to own it.
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Here is a video of the official launch of the Chevy Volt.
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written by Preston, January 07, 2007
written by Tom Konrad, January 07, 2007
My first new car was a Prius, in October 2001. 74,000 miles and I'm still a proud owner. Sure, there have been a few recalls, but I haven't had to pay for any of them.
written by Hank, January 07, 2007
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written by Jonathan Beith, January 10, 2007
While electric motors still essentially have a tail pipe at the coal-fired power plant, the power plant is a lot more efficient than the gasoline engine. Lots of studies show that electric cars get much more miles per ton of CO2 emitted. The Tesla Roadster, for instance, emits the equivalent of a 135-mpg gas engine, according to the EPA.
Think about it... the electric companies have always had an economic motive to make their technology more efficient, they buy the coal. The car companies have had no economic motive (aside from recent consumer demand); they don't have to pay for the fuel.
written by Carolyn Jordan, January 10, 2007
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written by Don, January 14, 2007
The difference between the Volt and the EV1 is that Volt has an engine so that if you happen to drive a distance in excess of the battery capacity you have a way of getting home.
written by LJ, January 15, 2007
There's a new enthusiast website:
http://www.gm-volt.com
written by Tim, January 15, 2007
Electric cars just help to clean the air in the cities and transfer the pollution to the power plants that nobody wants to live near.......which forces the power plants further from cities and makes them less efficient.
I'd much prefer to see people getting excited about more fuel efficient vehicles that run on old-fashioned gasoline than on these electric cars.
The problem is not that we are using gasoline or diesel or coal. The problem is that we're using so much of it so quickly.
Solar panels are not magic either. They require a lot of energy to build and don't last forever.
It seems to me that the biggest impact we can make by far is by reducing our use of energy, and the fastest and easiest and surest way of doing so is by improving fuel efficiency, not by changing fuels.
written by Chris, January 15, 2007
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written by fwank, January 16, 2007
I know it's semantics, but there's no such thing as an electric "engine", it's a motor!
erm nope its a "prime mover" in engineering
but what is the environmental impact of manufacturing the batteries ??
written by Bill Robbins, January 29, 2007
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevyvolt/
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written by Erich, February 06, 2007
it was an excellent car and they should have made the 4 door 4 person model and that may have saved it, in addition to saving it they should have made more charging stations across the country
written by Joe, March 07, 2007
written by Celia, March 09, 2007
written by john a, March 10, 2007
Most of their efforts seem to be to keep the ICE engine no matter what, ie hybrid, E85 flex fuel etc. Everyone needs to realize that translates into gas ICE.
If you buy a E85 flex fuel vehicle and you live in say nevada, where you gonna get the ethanol mix, Iowa. If you drive more than 40 miles in your volt your back to gas again. This thing is a joke compared to an all electric. Electricity can be produced by so many sources that is the only true flex fuel, and it is available everywhere. It is way cleaner to produce even with coal than everyone in an individual ICE car.
In the Volt you got an electric motor with battery pack, a gasoline turbo ICE with 2 small gas tanks, a diesel generator. I've got a left over sink from a remodel I can throw in there. How many things can go wrong with this thing ?
The point is, the beauty of all electric is simplicity, maintenence free, effeciency and performance. With this car, all of that goes away and that is part of the cost. People with all electrics change the tires, that's it.
I know that Tesla and others current production cars are more in price, but that has to do with the current model and it's target market(Tesla roadster $100,000 but goes 0-60 in 4 seconds, 250 mile range per charge, awesome styling) They are working on a BMW type sdn that is around 50K that will compete with it and then a lower price comp to the camry/accord etc. My point is that they are doing it now. By the way, the Tesla roadster 100K, is less or around the same as most serious sports cars in price with similar styling but kicks there butts in performance. Ya some might say it doesn't have the top speed of a gas model, but who is going over 130mph. I'd rather have a 0-100 mph car than a +130 car. At least the performance is useable. Check out Wright Speed on google, or Tzero or White Zombie etc etc, all electric cars kick butt in the 0-100 mph 1/4 mile range.
The reality is the technology is there. The ones who are keeping it from us is the major car companies, who unlike Tesla, have the major production capabilities now. They are either unwilling or afraid. Either way that is BS excuse in my view and Un-American as well.
Good luck wherever we end up..
written by Joseph M., April 18, 2007
written by joe, April 27, 2007
I am waiting for the VW Rabbit hybrid. Yes they are working on it.
written by Morgan Chemis, April 28, 2007
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written by Jim McFall, May 04, 2007
The Prius is real!
written by Joseph M., May 07, 2007
written by joe, May 10, 2007
My ride is pretty sweet, all the bells and whistles. 10 year old vw passat, 48.1mpg bought it for $2,500.
Atleast they aren;t trying to put hydrogen in the fuel tank. you get in a crash, that compressed tank explodes, violently! Think Hindenburg. Is it worth being burned alive save a few bucks on gas? Why do you think that the trucks which carry hydrogen stop for every railroad crossing even when the signal indicates no train?
The solution is more city and intercity busses.
Electric vehiles aren't new, remember when city busses were electric?
written by Alternans, May 23, 2007
From an environmental perspective, when power generation is moved to an electric power generating station, it's a lot easier to deal with any pollutants, so that's a big plus too.
written by Mike Warner, May 26, 2007
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written by John R, June 10, 2007
As for hydrogen, its not necessary to have large high pressure tanks on board. The hydratus at hydratus.com could eventually allow for hydrogen production on demand by mixing magnesium (easily found worldwide) and water. Not that I want us to go from dependence on oil companies to dependence on hydrogne or magnesium distributors. I prefer solar power on rooftops of all homes and businesses (price is coming down) with back up power from the grid.
The volt is too little too late. It looks nice but they want to keep people at least partially dependent on some form of fuel distribution.
written by Moose, June 10, 2007
Don't post if you don't know the facts. The Tesla Roadster costs $92,000.
"and the car still only goes about 100 miles on a charge."
It goes a little over 200 miles on a charge.
"The Volt hopes to be the price of any mid-size vehicle, around $20,000, with a range of 600 miles on a tank of gas, and 40 miles on a battery charge."
Hoping won't get it to that price. GM can hope all it wants. Tesla released the price of their car; GM hasn't. So until then, don't try to guess or estimate how much it will cost.
"The difference is very significant."
It's less significant without the lies.
"But pure electrics aren't quite feasible yet in the American market"
What are you smoking? The average American drives 30 miles a day. The ZAP Xebra (available for purchase right now) can go 25 miles. I drive less than 10. Sure, the Xebra is pretty goofy looking, even one without the black and white stripes, but its mileage is good enough. What about electric cars makes them not feasible in the American market?
"but the Volt is definitely better on the environment than tradtional hybrids, so I'm all for it."
That's true. But I'd rather go for the Phoenix SUT or SUV instead of the Volt. Phoenix has GM beat when it comes to recharge time - ten minutes compared to seven hours, respectively. I might wait a couple years, not just because of the waiting lists, until the price comes down from $45,000, though.
Solar power's expensive, but that's just because of the equipment (panels). I think it's around $50,000 with rebates and stuff here in New Jersey. But on Tesla's website, it says you can get 50 miles worth of electricity daily with solar panels, which is more than enough for me.
written by David, June 14, 2007
Question for you Moose: How efficient are solar cells? Last I remember they were around 18%. You live in Jersey and think you will get 50 miles per charge per day? How many batteries in the bank that you will use to store the charge when the solar cells are working during the day while you?re at work in your $40k electric vehicle. ?But on Tesla's website, it says you can get 50 miles worth of electricity daily with solar panels, which is more than enough for me.? Make no mistake. Tesla is stating best case. They?re in California and you?re in Jersey. Expect much less than what they state.
I hate to break it to you Moose, but if GM is targeting something, they will most likely not be more than 10% off of the mark. I think the Volt will become reality (my company was one of two that were awarded the development contract for the battery box). I like GMs approach of a serial hybrid rather than parallel. Ask a Prius owner about repair costs once their vehicle goes out of warranty. Good luck getting the equity loan. Series hybrids will be a fraction of the repair cost. They will also have much less assembly complexity. GM has a good direction and it will show in a couple of years.
The Tesla might as well be $100k. I think that was the remark he was going for. If you buy a Tesla please contact because you have way too much money and do not know how to use it properly.
To the rest of the blogs:
I won?t even address the bashes about the Big Three. These arguments are emotionally charged (people hopping on the bandwagon) and often draw on one fact (and one too many for some). I hope that all of your life decisions are not made by such reckless emotional reaction.
And you environmental junkies, how much pollution is produced when you have to replace your batteries? Many of your answers: there is no pollution because they are ?recycled?. Do a little research. How much CO2, SO2 and other noxious gases are produced in the electric plant to recharge your batteries? Any of you have those numbers because I?d love to see them. Mercury anyone? How much mercury is emitted in the average gas driven car?
Tradeoffs people. Life is all about tradeoffs.
written by rick, June 16, 2007
My question: why do all auto geeks assume that, particularly in an eco-car, we need to accelerate so rapidly and drive so fast? How about ditching the 500 pounds of batteries, the generator and the electric engine and trade it for an efficient, multigear standard (worse, automatic) transmission for the 1.0 liter engine that, without the extra weight, could probably go 70mph (the legal limit in many states) and get 50 or 60 or 80 miles per gallon. It might take you 15 seconds to get to 70 and it might only go 90...but, hey, this is the vehicle to save the world. You could even trap the waste heat for winter use, a heater. Air-conditioning? How about a swamp-cooler? Come on guys, think a little less high tech. Make it simple and make it work. Hydrogen, give me a break...this makes me laugh!
written by Peter, July 03, 2007
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written by Jake, August 02, 2007
I'm pissed at Big Auto too, but why don't we give GM a little credit here? They're putting a lot into this car and they're publicizing it like crazy. This could be the first electric (ish) car that is truly popular with the American public. I'm not at all familiar with the lesser-known all-electric cars that are already being produced by small companies, so I won't try to compare them to the Volt (which some people seem convinced they can do authoritatively). But I think it's safe to say that they haven't exactly hit the mainstream yet. What if the Volt gets more average people interested in the idea? It could benefit everyone. GM has huge resources to put towards this engineering challenge. Other companies have done it first, but GM could do it on a large scale, and with a platform that is more widely accepted by your average consumer. I think we should pay attention and hope that they are successful.
written by Jonas, August 05, 2007
But if this car works and performs as advertised or better, I think I would really enjoy owning one. If I can use this as my daily driver, I can keep my garage of muscle cars ... right?! :-0
written by Jim, August 10, 2007
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written by George, August 12, 2007
Anyway, you young people, how about laying off the slams. Write GM & Ford and let know how you feel? Let them know that you want better more efficient cars now and write to your congressmen and let them know you want them to push for more fuel efficient auto and to stop reducing the requirments instead of increasing them. It's time for action instead of words, lets demand of the world, not just America.
written by Thomas Timpf, August 12, 2007
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written by Jess McClure, August 14, 2007
looks like the cavemans relatives did survive afterall.
written by Hydro Carbon, August 15, 2007
written by Heh, October 07, 2007
Of course you can't just admit that Chevrolet is taking the clear lead in getting us off oil with initiatives like the Volt; you've spent so much time making them your bad-guys while bragging about your "conscience approved" companies, that your eco-egos will never accept the kind of bruising that they will get once it's realized just how wrong you are....
Michael Moore has taught you well...
Too bad you can't see beyond your noses now...
written by drug addiction treatment center, October 12, 2007
written by Packyman, October 16, 2007
written by EV enthusiast, October 25, 2007
Tesla Motors' website already explains the pollution question emitted from the power plants. Tesla roadster is still more efficient than the best hybird cars. And most plants use natural gas or nuclear energy to produce electricity in the U.S. Only a portion of the plants uses coal. In China most of them use coal so that is a problem as cars become more popular there. I got some info from "End of Oil" by Paul Roberts
to:George
One thing that you've been mislead. The Big Three get incentives and write offs from the U.S. government that keeps them from going bankrupt. Japan has been the biggest financiers for wars that the U.S.(ironically for oil) has been doing, so the debts are returned in a different way.
The tariffs I won't argue with you because I don't know but even if they were true it is irrevelant. Do you really know the REAL reason that not ONE GM car makes it to Japan? GM doesn't make cars with the steering wheel on the right side. LOL. That's why. The tariffs doesn't mean much. GM doesn't know how to cost produce effectively to meet markets in Japan especially when you are required to have much much smaller cars that GM doesn't specialize in.
to: Heh
You claim and blame leftest people for being short sighted but how are you not the same? The Volt is not the leader in cutting down oil usage. Electric cars are so go check out Tesla Motors' website at www.teslamotors.com, at least for to-be-produced-cars. Plug-in hybrids are far superior at this point since NO specifications are given for the Volt, no mpg, no acceleration info, nada. And it really goes across the political spectrum. I'm moderate but I don't want to be using oil as much as the environment people don't want to but for different reasons. There will be no need for war in iraq and waste my tax dollars while I get asthma.
FYI the Volt is very much under performing since a 40 mile range could be achieved decades ago and a 1996 EV1 could go 200-300 miles if it had lithium batteries.
So why is Chevy building a car with technology that is inferior to what is really out there? And furthermore making it from ground-up AGAIN?
written by Health Physicist, October 30, 2007
I do think it's pretty bad when people here in America bash American companies for moving ahead no matter what it is. Quit bashing American companies for trying to make progress.
If you don't like the car, fine, shut up and buy whatever you like. AMERICA gives you that option. You don't have to buy it or like it. That's OK. Good God. Give it a break. It's only a concept right now and you would think, by some of the comments, that it was the Anti-Christ.
If it does come out and is affordable for most people to buy, unlike the Tesla (which is also a nice car), then I guess you'll just have to deal with it. If you can't, get a Therapist. It sounds like some of you need one.
written by Eric, November 05, 2007
If this car goes 40 miles without using even a bit of gas, and (as its been said several times so far in this blog)the average person has less than a 40 mile commute today...doesnt that mean that "most people" will virtually eliminate their use of gasoline? I mean, im no engineer, but if "most people" drive FEWER than 40 miles in their day, and this car will go 40 miles without using gasoline, then most people would never use gas or use it very little compared to now. Sure, they will use more electricity, but I would assume that would have far less impact on the inviornment and it would have a TREMENDOUS impact on our economy. As I said, im no "ecogeek"...I care about my wallet as well as caring about the enviornment. Id like to have some sort of compromise there, if everyone drove this car it seems it would significantly decrease dependancy on oil and also virtually cut us off the multi-billion dollar oil tit...freeing up all that money back into the american economy.
Also, the car looks good. Why is it that many of the hybrid vehicles that get such great mileage have to scream "im an ecogeek" when you look at them??? Wouldnt more people who are NOT ecogeeks (like myself) buy these vehicles if they were more stylish? I know that sounds selfish, but lets face it, most people are, most people DO care about what the vehicle they drive looks like. It seems to me that the previous hybrids and eco cars were both engineered and designed by the eco geeks...cant they let the eco geeks figure out how to make it efficient but still let the style guys that come out with cars such as corvettes and mustangs design the exterior?
Acceleration is good. Yes, I want to help the enviornment, but I dont want to have the little old blue-haired lady driving 45 giving me the finger because IM holding HER up! I do want some power! I do want some passing ability! Once again, I know its selfish, but im speaking for the average person...and if were gonna actually make big strides in getting people to buy more efficient vehicles they must appeal to the average person...not just the ecogeek!
I might actually want to drive more than 200-300 miles in a trip! What if I want to go on vacation? What if I travel distances to see relatives?...Do I have to have two vehicles if I want to own a fully electric car? One to drive daily (electric) and one for the chance that I actually want to have the ability to drive distances? The fact that I can actually stop at the gas station and put gas in it if I need to drive more than just to the office and back is important!
So if this car, or others to come, have style, acceleration, has the ability to be fueled and go long distance when you do want to...AND it can virtually eliminate "most peoples" dependancy on gas on their average day...I say YAY chevy!
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written by Tycho, November 19, 2007
Surely getting the same mileage with a 2007 hybrid isn't anything to brag about.
I think it all boils down to teaching America to like 0-60 times of 13 seconds or more.
written by Rich C, November 20, 2007
written by TimJ, December 01, 2007
CAN'T WAIT!
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written by Bo Steele, January 03, 2008
For the vast amount of the driving on both of these hybrids, most trips were 34 miles or less. Real-world mileage on both of these cars driven under moderate conditions is about 42 miles per gallon. At current gasoline prices, this amounts to approximately seven cents per mile.
The Chevrolet Volt, andat my current electric rates, would cost about 2.2 cents per mile. this is based on an all electric, 34 mile round-trip.
For my driving style, there is no doubt that the Chevrolet Volt would provide far superior economics.
The 2005 civic had a measly 13 hp motor/generator. To maximize the regenerative braking, you had to decelerate at extremely slow rates. The 2006 was much better with a stronger generator, however, the deceleration rates to capture the kinetic energy were still very moderate.
By increasing the size of the motor/generator, normal deceleration's should be possible while still capturing the kinetic energy of the vehicle.
Both of the Hondas actually achieved about 36 miles per gallon when driven like a "normal" car. when driven like a hybrid should be driven, normal miles per gallon was around 42. If you drove these Hondas like a grandfather engineer, both could be pushed to achieve 63 to 65 miles per gallon on 70° days with minimal stopping that could be achieved by anticipating traffic lights up to a quarter mile away.
I would expect the Volt to reward its driver similarly. In other words, if you drive it very conservatively, you will probably get the full 40 or more miles without the fossil fuel power plant ever coming on. I would expect if you drive it aggressively, you may only 20 miles before the fossil fuel power plant life to kick in.
The Volt electric motor has 160 reported horsepower. This is greater than the combined gasoline and electric motors of the Honda Civic. There is no way the Honda Civic would ever do an 8.5 second 0-60!
I have owned many Honda motorcycles, and 63 cars total. The two Honda hybrids were the only two Honda cars I have ever owned. I can honestly say I was not impressed with the quality, the creature comforts, looks, or the drivability of either of these vehicles. In fact, I would say that 2006 Honda hybrid is probably the most troublesome vehicle I have owned in the last 10 years.
I hope for the consumer's sake that Honda,Toyota,Ford and many others follow suit and come up with plug-in electrics with fossil fuel range extenders as Chevrolet is planning!
Once you understand the economics of generating electricity, you will understand that the off-peak hours during the evening offer the capability of generating electricity at much reduced rates over the peak daytime hours. This should offer the consumer reduced off-peak hour electricity generating costs. Many metropolitan areas are already offering lower rates for off-peak electrical usage. The reasons are actually quite simple, in that many of the electrical generating facilities in this country are operating at very inefficient load generating capacities during the evenings. This evening generation capability has to exist to meet the demands during daytime peak loading due to business and air-conditioning needs during peak daytime hours. Increasing the evening generation capabilities balances the loads for utilities, which should ultimately reduce the overall cost of electricity production costs by amortizing the huge capital investments over increase production and sales of electricity.
The Volt is on target!
written by Shan, January 03, 2008
written by Carl Pinkston, January 09, 2008
i read a lot about global warming, being a reason for using a electric car... you know, the guilt thing..
as if humans are causing global warming.. here on earth and on mars..
somewhat like slavery.. as if i made a decision to have any effect on any of it..
i like the idea of an electric car.. for the economics of it.. and if i wished to make a long distance drive, can buy some gasoline..
plan to buy a volt, if i can afford it..
written by burnerman, January 10, 2008
written by Optimist, January 11, 2008
Electric/solar users should be given credits, incentivesm, free use!
written by Volt Guy, January 17, 2008
written by Mitchel, January 20, 2008
The Honda and Toyota hybrids are normal, gasoline fueled automobiles with what amounts to an oversized alternator.
Don't misunderstand, this does work to give their vehicles better mileage. However, it is more and adaptation of current technology rather than an evolution.
Rather than play catchup, the Volt leapfrogs over the current hybrid technology by building a true electric vehicle.
Rather than taking a gasoline vehicle and slapping a electric motor onto the side, the Volt is an electric vehicle with a gasoline motor added.
However, that gasoline motor isn't germain to the vehicle. When you look at the Volt, you are quite possibly looking at the World's first commercial Fuel Cell vehicle. All GM has to do is pop out that small, gasoline engine and its fuel tank and put a Fuel Cell stack with its fuel tank in their place.
This design could easily be adapted for any vehicle GM makes. As the happy owner of an almost classic -- just one more year -- 1989 GMC Sierra half-ton pickup, I'm drooling over the thought of a pickup with this type of drivetrain. Having more torque than a diesel at 5 mph would be pretty darn sweet. All with 25 to 30 miles per gallon (have to count the extra weight vs. car) on unleaded gasoline.
We haven't even talked about what this design could do for a crossover like an SUV.
In 15 year, every car sold will be built in the image of the Volt.
Another Innovation Brought To You By American Technology (A Division of American Chemistry)
Nobody beats us on a level playing field, our egos will not allow it.
written by Matt, January 23, 2008
written by John Dangol, February 07, 2008
(pls, google ev1 or 'who killed the electric car').
written by Mahonri, February 26, 2008
written by Jem, March 08, 2008
I think they are right on target with the 40mi range goal. Besides if they make it modular like they've said as batteries improve and super cap's get less that will increase. People have a tendency often to look at something and say we need a little of this, then go completely overboard in that direction. I think in this case GM is really trying to hit the mark. We will of course see when the product is finally released.
written by Joe B Moore, March 14, 2008
Does the car use the electric train method of breaking by generating power with the motor. This power could also be used to charge the batteries.
When is it going to be sold. 2008 or 9?
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I also have nothing against fuel cell technology, but the weight of a hydrogen tank or the equipment needed to generate hydrogen is the worst of all these solutions in a car. And ofcourse, every big 3 oil company sells hydrogen.
GM, you need to do better than this. I need my A/C and I should be able to drive all day or at least most of a sunny day using solar power to recharge the batteries as I drive or park.
written by Mike, August 08, 2008
written by John D'Angelo, August 10, 2008
My point is this, everyone knows that the gas companies are looking out for their own investment, their oil, and they will do anything and everything to see that they always win.....this new technology that will be available in a couple years is really a leap in the right direction....imagine the barrier that had to be overcome when you have companies who's net worth is a couple hundred billion dollars or more!!! this new technology that will be available could be better, your absolutely right, but for the giant barrier that the gas companies have created this is definetly a step in the right direction.....and it can only get better.
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written by dave, August 31, 2008
ok so people think that this is displacing the environmental-impact problem to the power stations. so what's so bad about that?! at least this means that power stations can be upgraded to use cleaner /greener technologies as they arise rather than having to upgrade an entire GLOBAL fleet of vehicles!
written by Josh, September 28, 2008
Another issue that really seems to be on many peoples mind is why not a larger battery and no generator? I don't know about you but the last time I bought a pack of rechargeable batteries, it wasn't cheap. I can only imagine how much it would cost to replace a pack that large. If the average person drives less than 40 miles a day great why waste extra money on batteries that you don't use. It seems that it is also well known that batteries aren't gonna make the long haul. Even with the $92k Tesla roadster you're at best 250 miles. Personally I don't have $92k to spend on a car that takes 8 hours (approx.) to charge. I don't even make enough to have a second car. Oh, yeah I'm also in the military so it's almost a given that my family doesn't live anywhere close to me. Solar panels would be great, but are very expensive. This has to be affordable to the masses. This brings me to the generator which allows me the freedom to travel anywhere you want without being tethered to an outlet for 8 hours or so while you wait for the batteries to charge. Now I know some fool is going to tell me that you should be able to charge the batteries to 90% in 10 minutes. I'd really like to see you try on any circuit in your house. An electrical draw that large would most definitely burn your house down and most likely cause your batteries to catch fire or explode with all the heat generated with such a fast transfer. Now back to the generator. I think that being able to go anywhere for a reasonable 50 mpg is acceptable. GM said the generator is modular so it can be anything from gas to diesel or whatever.
As a final remark, to all those who think they can do a better job, I invite you to do it. Go out there and invest your money that you would have spent on your Tesla and make something better. That's what this country is all about isn't it?
written by jim, September 30, 2008
All this for just 40,000,00 dumb looking car with bad gas mileage, yeah, right.
Looks like Toyota is going to kick GMs rear, too bad. Americans needed the boost. [removed]void(0);[removed]void(0);
written by Becka, September 30, 2008
written by Nathan Whitcomb, October 01, 2008
written by bill, October 03, 2008
written by JCZ, November 24, 2008
written by big, February 17, 2009
written by Steve, April 29, 2009
I don't see that this idea is really any dumber than an electric car anyway. Auto makers know fine well it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to appeal to the ideology. Like the Volt, Instead of burning the fuel to directly power your car- you're converting it to electricity, (losing efficiency) transmitting it through miles of lines (losing efficiency) transferring it to your chemical battery (losing efficiency) storing it (losing it) before finally using the fraction that is left... to go 40 miles! (new battery, flat road, warm day, not using heater, AC, radio or lights) what is being sold is not a practical alternative to anything, but a sense of self righteousness and superiority. Little windmills on the car would serve this purpose, while, like the hybrid logos, giving everybody a good laugh!
I don't think you have to worry about the buyer citing the 2nd law of thermodynamics- we are talking about people who think Co2 is a pollutant!
Not the most scientifically literate target market:)
written by Herb Rice, June 30, 2009
written by Big K, August 11, 2009
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written by l. white, August 13, 2009
written by Michael m, August 13, 2009
There may have been waiting lists for the tiny numbers that were leased,but it would never have made it as a real product. Yes,destroying them was a giant PR mistake,but they did it because they could not provide service or replacement parts. They should have simply "scrapped" them and sold them to a salvager and let them resell them as salvage title vehicles to anyone who wanted them,but hindsight is 20-20.
written by D, August 13, 2009
written by Steve, December 29, 2009
and all I did was sign the paper that the work had been done.I called and emailed all the big three before I bought the Prius and asked how long it would be before they had anything in thier plans and got the same answer from all three,not in site.Now 7 years later I own 3 toyota Ptius's getting 50 miles per gallon driving like all the other craizes out there or if I want to slow down and take a leisure drive I can get better than 60.The European bound cars have an ev button only to push, the American version didn't have one till o9.I can push the ev button and drive till the big battery gets too about 25 % then the engine starts and charges.Toyota started talking 100 miles per gal by 2010 but no one was close enough to the fuel economy for them to bother.With the Prius there is no waiting on charging,there is no worry about heat,if you turn on the heat if the coolant is not warm enough the engine will start and warm it up,it even has a thermos bottle that stores 1 gallon of coolant and keeps it warm up to 3 days so when it starts it pumps it through the engine for faster warm up.The prius can ride 5 people comfortable with good leg room.The President of GM said the Prius would never sell now see where Toyota is at,and GM is being proped up by tax dollars.
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